{"id":1442,"date":"2018-07-01T08:02:44","date_gmt":"2018-07-01T08:02:44","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/notonbluray.com\/blog\/?p=1442"},"modified":"2022-09-02T08:49:57","modified_gmt":"2022-09-02T08:49:57","slug":"snell-and-wilcox-tbs-185-review-update","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/notonbluray.com\/blog\/snell-and-wilcox-tbs-185-review-update\/","title":{"rendered":"Snell and Wilcox TBS-185 Review Update"},"content":{"rendered":"<div itemscope itemtype=\"http:\/\/schema.org\/BlogPosting\"><p>I received an email from a reader a month or two back saying they were having trouble with the time-base correction (TBC) functionality on the Snell and Wilcox TBS-185. Thinking back to my review, I actually always tested with Laserdiscs, and generally played through players with integrated digital TBCs. I didn&#8217;t think much of this at the time &#8211; after all a TBC should, you know, correct timebase errors.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>The reader was having issues with PAL Laserdiscs and VHS tapes, and wondered if I&#8217;d tested with them&#8230; well &#8211; I hadn&#8217;t.<\/p>\n<p>As it turns out &#8211; the &#8216;C&#8217; (Golden Gate) input of the TBS-185 is sensitive to time base error. The uncorrected feed from a VHS tape is pretty twitchy. Even fed from the basic digital TBC of a Panasonic NV-200 &#8211; it&#8217;s still twitchy.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_1446\" style=\"width: 796px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"http:\/\/notonbluray.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/Cap1-no-TBC-on-VHS-deck-tearing.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1446\" class=\"size-full wp-image-1446\" src=\"http:\/\/notonbluray.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/Cap1-no-TBC-on-VHS-deck-tearing.png\" alt=\"'Warriors of the Wind' VHS captured via a Panasonic NV-200 (tbc-off). A very unstable image.\" width=\"786\" height=\"576\" srcset=\"https:\/\/notonbluray.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/Cap1-no-TBC-on-VHS-deck-tearing.png 786w, https:\/\/notonbluray.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/Cap1-no-TBC-on-VHS-deck-tearing-300x220.png 300w, https:\/\/notonbluray.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/Cap1-no-TBC-on-VHS-deck-tearing-768x563.png 768w, https:\/\/notonbluray.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/Cap1-no-TBC-on-VHS-deck-tearing-624x457.png 624w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 786px) 100vw, 786px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-1446\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">&#8216;Warriors of the Wind&#8217; VHS captured via a Panasonic NV-200 (tbc-off). A very unstable image.<\/p><\/div>\n<p>During my earlier review I noted that the DPS-575 it had either a 3D comb-filter, or a TBC + 2D comb filter. That design choice seemed odd at the time, but was presumably the product of either limited RAM or limited processing power. Unfortunately seems like the TBS-185 has the same issue, it just doesn&#8217;t advertise it clearly. Very disappointing.<\/p>\n<p>Buyer beware.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_1447\" style=\"width: 796px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"http:\/\/notonbluray.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/Cap2-with-TBC-on-VHS-deck-better-but-not-perfect.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1447\" class=\"size-full wp-image-1447\" src=\"http:\/\/notonbluray.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/Cap2-with-TBC-on-VHS-deck-better-but-not-perfect.png\" alt=\"'Warriors of the Wind' VHS captured via a Panasonic NV-200 (tbc-off). A very unstable image.\" width=\"786\" height=\"576\" srcset=\"https:\/\/notonbluray.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/Cap2-with-TBC-on-VHS-deck-better-but-not-perfect.png 786w, https:\/\/notonbluray.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/Cap2-with-TBC-on-VHS-deck-better-but-not-perfect-300x220.png 300w, https:\/\/notonbluray.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/Cap2-with-TBC-on-VHS-deck-better-but-not-perfect-768x563.png 768w, https:\/\/notonbluray.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/07\/Cap2-with-TBC-on-VHS-deck-better-but-not-perfect-624x457.png 624w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 786px) 100vw, 786px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-1447\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">&#8216;Warriors of the Wind&#8217; VHS captured via a Panasonic NV-200 (tbc-on). Slightly better &#8211; but still some intermittant &#8216;flagging&#8217; issues.<\/p><\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I received an email from a reader a month or two back saying they were having trouble with the time-base correction (TBC) functionality on the Snell and Wilcox TBS-185. Thinking back to my review, I actually always tested with Laserdiscs, and generally played through players with integrated digital TBCs. 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